S. Mac P.: Do you remember the 1916 Rising?
P. L.: I do.
S. Mac P.: Yeah?
P. L.: I do. I wasn’t out… I wasn’t out in any portion of it at all whatever. Matter of fact I was never where there was a shot fired. […] Of course, we lived out of barracks.
S. Mac P.: What did you think of the Rising when it happened?
P. L.: Ah well I was in sympathy with them, to tell you the truth.
S. Mac P.: Were you?
P. L.: I was because… Matter of fact I was in the Force and I didn’t… didn’t care a whole lot for it.
S. Mac P.: Is that right, and… then during the troubles too, I suppose you were sort of in sympathy with the IRA, were you?
P. L.: I was, but I had no contact with any of them.
S. Mac P.: Yeah. You never passed on information or anything…
P. L.: No, I was never asked for any information, but in any case, I wasn’t in a position to give any information, with the position… the job that I had.
S. Mac P.: But you were in sympathy, even though you were…
P. L.: Yes I was. I was.
S. Mac P.: But yet your life might have been in danger, you could have been shot for…
P. L.: Oh I could yes, well I always… I accepted that, I was expecting that and… I didn’t mind. I was ready to go any time, it didn’t matter to me.